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IE6... no need to fear
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There is at least one issue with IE6. It carries table alignment through the table, to the child cells.
You can see an example here: http://deniswilford.com/test/ie6bug.html
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Doh!!!
I guess you can't have it all... hopefully that wont affect many people...
But I guess it's not really their fault... people complain that the browsers arent compliant, yet the new browsers come out that are totally compliant, and people complain again because their sites aren't written in compliant HTML or Javascript.
Hopefully the next version of DW/UD will use XHTML... I think that will solve alot of these problems.
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The biggest reason why I am not installing IE 6 is that I want to be able to test my sites in IE5 also. And then I would need a seperate machine for that which I do not have! The fact that I now have IE5.5 and can not test for IE5.0 is bad enough.
Conclusion: I will have to wait till I have a second machine or till the majority of surfers use IE6.
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One bug which I have noticed it that even though a cookie is set to expire in, i.e one month IE6 kills it as soon as the browser is closed, or seems to.
I tried this in IE5, IE5.5, NS4.7, NS6 and Opera as well as IE5 for the mac but IE6 gave me the following problem.
In an online poll I wrote when the user votes a cookie is set , ok so far, instead of the questions, you see the results. Now in IE6 when I close the browser re-open it and go back to the same page the questions are shown again. Close it down again and reopen it and the results are there.
It's not only with this I have noticed it, when trying to login on this site or at other forums I get the same result.
George
George
This is not a bug but the new security settings introduced into IE6, IE6 conforms to the W3C privacy policy standard, and will effect all sites using cookies, you as a site developer need to create a compact pricay policy for you site, information can be found at:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnsecure/html/ie6privacyfeature.asp
As a user IE6 can be made to work exactly as IE5 by changing the level of privacy protection either for a given site or for all sites visted by either changing the level of the privacy settings to Low from the default of Medium or by adding the site to IE6 trusted site list using the aWeb Sites option , both are found on the Privacy tab available from IE6's Tools > Internet Options menu.
The default medium setting,
Blocks third-party cookies that do not have a compact privacy policy. Blocks third-party cookies that use personally identifiable information without the the users implicit consent. Restricts first-party cookies that use personally identifiable information without implicit consent.
the Low setting, only restircts the cookies otherwise blocked by the medium setting.
Yours
Paul R. Boon
Lead DW/UD Extension Developer
Public Domain Ltd
Dan CSS handeling has been added to to allow this to happen, but by setting the doc-type correct for the document you can actually get/force IE6 to render as older versions of the browser do, depending on the user base your aiming at.
Information is available from the following URL.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnie60/html/cssenhancements.asp
Yours
Paul R. Boon
Lead DW/UD Extension Developer
Public Domain Ltd
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Paul from my understanding ,
3rd party sites without a policy get blocked 1st party ones
are allowed regardless of policy on the default setting
George
George, correct, but the restrictions placed on the first-party cookie are effecting the state of the cookie when the browser is closed, as you experienced, i have found adding the compact privacy policy helps aviod this, it might have just been my experince of IE6 though the beta stages and the release version.
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Thanks Paul,
I shall have a look at that.
George
Some banks do not support IE6 yet. I think the browser is great (very fast page rendering) but some banks, like Wells Fargo (or sucko whichever you prefer) will not let you log on yet as they require IE5, 5.5 or Nutscrape.
Just thought that you may want to know,
Bill
I tried IE6 and experienced numerous flaws, mostly locking the OS up with no way out but to ctrl+alt+delete, and getting the blue screen of death. As posted the "un-install" failed to restore version 5.5. I ended up consulting Micorsoft, who advised renaming the miration .dll files in the registry for IE6 and OutlookX , then removing the registry keys associated with the renamed .dll files, THEN re-installing Win98 to restore the default IE4 install, THEN upgrading IE4 back to IE5.5. What a head ache ! I as well as Microsoft STRONGLY recommend NOT going into the registry and performing this wizardry unless You make SURE You know how to restore it if problems occur and You know Your stuff ! Microsoft also posts that You using the Registry Editor incorrectly can cause serious problems, and that You do so at Your own risk ! I myself will wait for a more stable version to come down the pipe, and stick with IE5.5
Caetck
Caetck
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That's what you get for running windoze 98!!
(just kidding ;-) )
I personally would never go back to windows 98 for the same reasons you just mentioned... endless lockups, bluescreens of death.
Ever since I upgraded to windows 2k, I have been happier than a pig in slop. little or no lockups, and when a program doesn't respond, it allows you to end the process very gracefully. I haven't had a problem with ie6 since I installed it.
my guess is that your problems are more OS related than App related.
Sho got that right ! Windows 2K Pro ends the process quite gracefully on the systems I have used this far, XP really does not look nor act like a "from the ground up" OS as Microsoft claims it is. I think it's just more
"bloated" code on top of Win3.0 in disguise...what ever Mr. Gates.
I personally would never go back to windows 98 for the same reasons you just mentioned... endless lockups, bluescreens of death. Ever since I upgraded to windows 2k, I have been happier than a pig in slop. little or no lockups, and when a program doesn't respond, it allows you to end the process very gracefully.
While it’s true that Win2k crashes less often than Win9#/ME, it is not bulletproof. Just today, one of my co-workers clicked on a Web link to a movie, and his Win2k SP2 system with IE 6.1 SP1 immediately locked up hard — even the mouse cursor wouldn’t move, no response to any keystrokes including [Ctrl]+[Alt]+[Esc] or [Ctrl]+[Alt]+[Del], and even the keyboard Caps Lock, Num Lock, and Scroll Lock LEDs wouldn’t toggle in response to their respective [… Lock] keys! Not even so much as a Blue Screen of Death! Just a total lock-up! We had to do a force power-off!
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well, of course there's gonna be snags .. I myself have come across a few. Since I last posted that original response, I've since upgraded to winxp pro ... as before, I enjoy it ... even with the new "bloated" UI.
Seriously, people need to chill out and realize when they've got a good thing.
Joel Martinez
http://www.communitymx.com
There is also the small matter that there are still programs and whole capabilities that Win9# and ME can do that no NT-kernel HAL-based Windows version, from NT 3.1 through Win2003 Server and including 2k and XP, can do.
Examples include Yamaha's Soft-PLG VL Physical Modelling technology in the S-YXG100plus soft synthesizer, or the equivalent Sondius-XG Physical Modelling capability supported in the device driver for inexpensive (mine cost $15 retail) sound cards based on the Yamaha DS-XG YMF-7#4 chipsets. Those cannot run under any NT-kernel Windows at all. They won't even install! Even under Win98, 98SE, or ME, if you install the .WMD DS-XG driver (which can work under Win2k and later as well as 98 and later) instead of the .VxD driver (which cannot work on any NT-kernel HAL-based Windows), you lose the Sondius-XG Physical Modelling. The Sondius-XG checkbox doesn't even appear, even grayed-out, in the DS-XG Control Panel for those drivers.
Think that's minor? Listen to what Sondius-XG can do! http://www.shreve.net/~joelrea/AnotherWoman.asf -- this link is to an .ASF file that is a direct recording made using the "Stereo Out" input on the Recording Volume Controls panel (which allows you to record whatever the sound card is playing at the time) while this MIDI file: http://www.shreve.net/~joelrea/AnotherWoman.mid is playing with Sondius-XG turned on. Now play it on your own sound card, and even if it's a DS-XG YMF-7#4 based chipset, if you're using any NT-kernel Windows, or the .WDM driver under Win 98/ME, or the .VxD driver but have Sondius-XG disabled in the DS-XG Control Panel, everything else will sound the same, but the wonderfully-expressive tenor blues saxophone and mellow trumpet solos will sound very plain and keyboardish, with all expressiveness stripped out. Enable Sondius-XG on a DS-XG YMF-7#4 chipset driven by a .VxD driver-equipped Win9#/ME system, and play back the .MID file, and it will sound identical (except for lack of codec artifacts) to the .ASF recording!
(Disclaimer: I did not make that MIDI file myself. I tweaked it from a demo file on NTonyX's Web site [http://www.ntonyx.com] which is a company that makes awesome MIDI software that has actual artificial intelligence that uses XG and VL commands to make MIDI instruments play as if performed by a real human performer, with emotion and feeling. None of that file involves MIDI capture of live performance [breath or wind controllers, keyboard aftertouch, foot pedals, wheels, or other continuous-controller input capture], and none of it involves any parameter curves or any other such tweaks. Every nuance of performance was generated entirely by NTonyX software! The only changes I made were to make it sound better on my DS-XG Level 1 XG + VL sound card, since the original MIDI was optimized for a much more expensive piece of gear, a Yamaha MU-100R rack-mount Level 5 XG + VL tone generator)
Sorry, but I'm not giving up that capability!
Re: IE 6, a major capabililty has been removed (or, rather, made more difficult to access), namely, Netscape-style plugins. In IE through version 5.5 SP1, those plugins still worked by default. With IE 5.5 SP2, they were disabled, but the capability remained, and it could be re-enabled by a single Registry entry (copy the following three lines of code [between ` and ' marks] to a .REG file and merge it into your Registry to re-activate all Netscape-style plugins in IE 5.5 SP2: `REGEDIT4' `[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main]' `"Q261272"="yes"').
IE 6, on the other hand, further restricts those plugins. They can still be enabled by Registry patches, but each plugin must have its own Registry patch. For instance, to enable the Myriad Music Plugin (http://www.myriad-online.com), here is the Registry code that would be needed (note that it involves specific MIME-types, extensions, and CSIDs, and so only works for the Myriad Music Plugin, not any other Netscape-style plugin):
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main]
"Q261272"="yes"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MIME\Database\Content Type\application/x-myriad-music]
"CLSID"="{06DD38D3-D187-11CF-A80D-00C04FD74AD8}"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{06DD38D3-D187-11CF-A80D-00C04FD74AD8}\EnableFullPage\.mus]
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{06DD38D3-D187-11CF-A80D-00C04FD74AD8}\EnableFullPage\.myr]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX Compatibility\{06DD38D3-D187-11CF-A80D-00C04FD74AD8}]
"Compatibility Flags"=dword:00000000
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