ok heres the dilemma i don't have coldfusion but someone told me that i can still do the randrange function ( this allows box sections to randomize every time you refresh the page or go back to it) no i have a page all set id dreamweaver and everything works but this function... i wanted it so the boxes of info wont always be in the same place all the time or in the same order when you pull up the page.... can anyone help me out...