Ok so I'not an expert but having paid MM a lot of money I find the complimentary 90 days support a bit of a liberty.

still such is life, here's the question is the best way to get rid of the horizontal scroll bar for the majority of viewers CSS2 and can anyone tell me of a book/site/tutorial to aid my learning

Cheers

Ian

Not exactly sure on what your asking here Ian.
Scrollbars don't care what CSS version u r on.

The only reason you get a horizontal scroll bar on a page is when it is too wide for the browser.

The only other scrollbars are if you are using a textbox in a form, (Or an Iframe) and the form is changed by making the the scroll value into "virtual".

Hope i explained what you wanted to know, but in future the more details you give us, the better we can help you out.

P.s. > Hardly any of us are experts, we just like to help each other out.

"Get the kettle on, time for a brew"

Edited by - UltraDav on 02 Aug 2002 15:33:28

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Not exactly sure on what your asking here Ian.
Scrollbars don't care what CSS version u r on.

The only reason you get a horizontal scroll bar on a page is when it is too wide for the browser.

The only other scrollbars are if you are using a textbox in a form, (Or an Iframe) and the form is changed by making the the scroll value into "virtual".

Hope i explained what you wanted to know, but in future the more details you give us, the better we can help you out.

P.s. &gt; Hardly any of us are experts, we just like to help each other out.

"Get the kettle on, time for a brew"

Edited by - UltraDav on 02 Aug 2002 15:33:28
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Not exactly sure on what your asking here Ian.
Scrollbars don't care what CSS version u r on.

The only reason you get a horizontal scroll bar on a page is when it is too wide for the browser.

The only other scrollbars are if you are using a textbox in a form, (Or an Iframe) and the form is changed by making the the scroll value into "virtual".

Hope i explained what you wanted to know, but in future the more details you give us, the better we can help you out.

P.s. &gt; Hardly any of us are experts, we just like to help each other out.

"Get the kettle on, time for a brew"

Edited by - UltraDav on 02 Aug 2002 15:33:28
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Hi
Apologies to one and all I was not trying to be obtuse in my first message, my problemis I don't know the correct question to ask in order to elicit the reply I need.

Anyway I'll just state the problem and wait for suggestions as to solutions.

I designed the web page on a 15" MONITOR set to 1024* 768 and it looks god with no horizontal scroll bars.

When I view it on other monitors the scroll bars appear and according to other web sites the horizontal scroll bar spells death to a site and shows poor design

Solutions suggested to me were:-

1. Design the page for an 800*600 monitor which is apparently what 60% of users use.
Ok how to I set up or use dreamweaver to let me design a page for 800*600

2. Use floating frames

3. Use CSS2 for relative positioning

4. Write the webpage and convert is for different screen sizes.

Sorry this is long winded but I've read the manual, the DW bible and surfed the web all without result so any pointers and suggestions would be extremely welcome.

Thanks

Ian

Right thats better m8.

First off this is a concern that all designers have and you cannot design a site that will look good on everyone's browser. With so many different screen types and resolutions nowadays. However, there are solutions for the majority.
1. If you want to design a page in 800x600 in dreamweaver then all you need to do is change your Desktop Resolution to 800x600 and then create the site. DW will work off your Desktop Res & Colour Scheme, so thats one problem solved for you.

2. you may have to go into preferences in DW and change the panel sets to 800x600

3. If you set the page width to 760* pixels and "Center" it, it will still look good in 1024*760, rather than having it aligned left and leaving loads of whitesapce next to it. Also set your Top & Left borders to "0" in "page properties"

Doing it this way takes away the need for converting it for all different resolutions, and also needs no javascripts or such to display properly in peoples mintors.

Another way to do it so it is built in 1024*760 but still viewable in 800*600 is to set the table width as a "% percentage" rather than "Pixel width".
Beacuse as a percentage value will shrink and expand the table according to who is looking at it.
So Table Width="90%" will stretch across 90% of the browser screen regardless of whether it is looking at it in either resolution. Whereas a table set to Table Width="950px" would look fine in 1024* and higher, but would give you a Horiz.Bar in 800* and lower.

Hope this made sense and helped you out.

no offence was taken in your first question. All i do ask for the good of the forum is that you don't double post like above when not including anything.

Best of luck

Edited by - UltraDav on 02 Aug 2002 20:04:04

Edited by - UltraDav on 02 Aug 2002 20:07:18

Hi

Just to say thanks a lot I'll give that a try. A reply in understandable English is a refreshing change and I loved the idea of re-sizing the desktop. Not something I had thought off!.

As for the blank messages it's one of lifes " Sods laws" you know it's the wrong button but the mouse seems possesed and lead you to it, I agree twice is a bit more stupid but I'll take respnsibilty.

Many thanks for the help

Ian

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Here's a top tip I got from Connman for testing your site at different screen resolutions:

Make a 1600 x 1200 pixel image, or whatever the maximum resolution of your screen is, in Photoshop or whatever graphics app you use. Mark the popular screen resolutions on it: 800 x 600, 1024 x 768 etc. Save the image as a windows bitmap then set it as your screen background image. Now you can quickly resize your browser to get an impression of how your site will look at different resolutions.

Regards

Owen.

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Replying to my own question, this is becoming bizzare!

Anyway if you go to www. the pattysite.com/windows_sizes1.cfm there is a download of a ready made screen resolution Gaphic. I've tried it and it does seem to work.

Ian

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