It is getting way too annoying to see someone posting a thread or question, then findidng the solution and only replying to his hers own thread with something like: forget about it i found the solution"

we all want to know the best way to solve this questions. we all learn from those who are better than us, as we all help those who are newbies.

In order to achieve our best we count on our own attitude.

Hope you people think about this

Everybody should belive in something... I belive i'm having another beer

Edited by - sieteyuna on 13 Jul 2002 03:15:04

I second that motion... <img src=../images/dmxzone/forum/icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

(DWMX|IIS5|WXP|ASP/VB)
*Connman21*
www.conncreativemedia.com

I'm all for showing people my code and such, but people do have to start developing research skills. The many (4+ times I've posted a question and found my answer, it's because I went out there searching the internet.)

It's odd, some people come up to me and say "Where can I find info for this?" And I'll ask, "Did you try the internet? You know, the largest organization of data known to mankind?" And I'll 90% of the time get back "OH YEAH! The internet! Is that thing still around?"

Anyone wants to know how I did something, ask and I'll be glad to show. Helping out each other is what forums are all about. But you also got to attempt to be self sufficient as well; If you're on the job and you don't know how to do something (and of course, neither do tweedle dee and tweedle dumbass, your associates, either) then you gotta develop research skills to find out!

Aegis Kleais
New Media Web Developer
(DWMX : IIS5.1 : SQL2K : WXP : ASP[VB/JS])

I must admit i have had a lot of help on here and most people are only too willing to help, but i must also agree with aegiskleais in that people should try and find information themselves and try it out to see what happens.
I have spent many hours going round various sites that offer code and scripts and help and allsorts and then trying them out and also trying to make stuf work by myself even tho my knowledge of ASP, Javascript and VBScript is very limited.
It's nice to get help but the feeling you get when you do it yourself is ten times better.
But guys i'm NOT saying don't help me <img src=../images/dmxzone/forum/icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Absolutely. I don't think any of us come here expecting to be told to "go find it yourself", but I must admit, it's very personally rewarding to be able to troubleshoot your own problems. Like right now, I have a post about Active Users that has been posted twice and no useful replies. So I've been looking for it and/or devising a method that may work. It's all a process of seek and learn.

I'll always offer any coding if possible. It's even better if I can tell you what to do and by that thought alone, you can do it. What's sorta bad is when you hear something like:

"I dont' even know what ASP stands for, but I want to build an advanced application" Not only is giving code to that person probably going to stump them, but they have no understanding of WHAT the code does. Personally, I heavily comment my code:

&lt;%
' ====================================
' = SETTING VARIABLES FOR USE
' ====================================
' = We're using Option Explicit because everytime
' = we use a new variable, it has to be declared first
' = with the Dim command. This is good for debuggin
' = later on in your application
' ====================================
%&gt;

Stuff like that is great during development. I'll save it as filename_dev.asp And then in order to optimize file performance, I'll remove all codes when it's working properly and save it as filename.asp

Aegis Kleais
New Media Web Developer
(DWMX : IIS5.1 : SQL2K : WXP : ASP[VB/JS])

Most of us people around UD talkzones have this self tought origins, so far i can tell dave and aegis are always around to help. but i have to tell most of the times i rather find my own way to solve a particular bump on the way.
I read lots of books, tutorials and manuals: asp, php, C, pearl, cooking, golfing, camping and scuba diving, I even get help from the dinners menu, discount coupons, flyers and the book of stupid facts, I can say i work at a great level for a self tought developer, however spending time posting, answering and reading the trheads in the talk zones wakes my brain up even more... Each of us have a different brain flow and reading how other people apraoches a problem give us a lateral way of thinking, call me weird if you may, but having the kind of "forget it" self answers i reffered in the first place is like some telling you: ¿guess what just happened to me on my way here?... nahhhh... forget it... gets annoying, that is all my point... finally, the talkzones are to share... even extra caffeine moments like this

Everybody should belive in something... I belive i'm having another beer