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Dreamweaver UltraDev vs. Dreamweaver MX
29 May 2002 15:37:25 M. Stan posted:
<font face='Verdana'><font size=2>I'm supposed to buy Dreamweaver MX today, or convince the boss that I don't need it. I don't really want to get it right away for 2 reasons.
1) Don't want to re-learn where everything is at
2) Don't see any features in MX that aren't in UltraDev already.
Now he said #1 is not a good enough reason NOT to get it, but I can't find anything that says where UltraDev is the same as MX. From what I can tell, it is the same product, MX is just prettier. If anybody has seen any articles or can help me look for them, comparing UltraDev with MX, it'd be appreciated.
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Edited by - mattboy_slim on 29 May 2002 15:38:34
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Replied 29 May 2002 23:12:46
29 May 2002 23:12:46 Ricardo Ribeiro replied:
Mat...
I'm an UltraDev 4 experienced user and I already tried the MX versions and I don't thing the a) reason would be a problem. I didn't find any problem dealing with the interface.
As it goes do b), well... if you don't need, let's say, tu use MySQL, well, in that case I wouldn't definitely go for it.
I'm an UltraDev 4 experienced user and I already tried the MX versions and I don't thing the a) reason would be a problem. I didn't find any problem dealing with the interface.
As it goes do b), well... if you don't need, let's say, tu use MySQL, well, in that case I wouldn't definitely go for it.
Replied 29 May 2002 23:52:55
29 May 2002 23:52:55 Waldo Smeets replied:
Even if it was only for it's interface I'd already prefer DMX instead of UD4. It's very easy to get used to and even better: it will improve your workflow and ease of use!
Second reason to upgrade would be it's code editing features. Much and much better than in UD4.
Then of course the new server models that have been added: VB.NET and C# .NET and PHP and a new ColdFusion server model.
The only disadvantage is that lots of 3th party server behaviors for uD$ are broken in DMX. But I assume that that's only a matter of time.
Waldo Smeets -- www.UDzone.com Co-Founder
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Second reason to upgrade would be it's code editing features. Much and much better than in UD4.
Then of course the new server models that have been added: VB.NET and C# .NET and PHP and a new ColdFusion server model.
The only disadvantage is that lots of 3th party server behaviors for uD$ are broken in DMX. But I assume that that's only a matter of time.
Waldo Smeets -- www.UDzone.com Co-Founder
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UDzone.com: The site for Macromedia
Dreamweaver UltraDev Developers!
Replied 30 May 2002 19:47:47
30 May 2002 19:47:47 M. Stan replied:
Well I went ahead and bought Studio MX, for the simple reason that the boss wanted to have it. I did a lot research yesterday, but I still don't see that it has anything that UltraDev doesn't have, according to the features that I use, other than support for ASP.NET, which I don't intend on getting into right away anyways.
Replied 08 Jun 2002 00:06:58
08 Jun 2002 00:06:58 scre wdanger replied:
I am also not that much impressed form Mx. Still the fact that in future all the support and extensions will be directed towards DwMx is strong enough to get Mx and get used to it. The most disadvantage comes in play when it goes to thirdparty extensions. But then as our dear Waldo said "its only amatter of time".
Replied 08 Jun 2002 21:16:11
08 Jun 2002 21:16:11 David Thomas replied:
I liked the hand coding. Not that i do much of it.
But as you type, you get options for tags related to the tags your working with.
Be a good asset for learners like me.
And most of my extensions still work, so happy days
"Nobody ever said this stuff was easy"
But as you type, you get options for tags related to the tags your working with.
Be a good asset for learners like me.
And most of my extensions still work, so happy days
"Nobody ever said this stuff was easy"
Replied 11 Jun 2002 18:31:49
11 Jun 2002 18:31:49 Dennis van Galen replied:
Well, to me the new template options alone are worth the upgrade price... Mind you, not everyone has over 1000 pages in their websites. Updating 400 pages from a nested template sure is alot faster then the 45 minutes it used to take to update from the main template. <img src=../images/dmxzone/forum/icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>
The new script thingies in the object panel help alot, for me atleast, the integrated snippets is usefull for re-using codes, the upgraded application window is also worth mentioning (database viewer and components/webservices tabs added), it saves alot of trips to MS-Access and SQL, i just use the database view in the application window. <img src=../images/dmxzone/forum/icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>
And now having ColdFusion to play with woke up my manager, today he sent someone my way to make some of those nice charts that I showed him (on my home test-server), so I rushed to his office and said, Look I told you that those charts are ColdFusion and we don't have the Server yet, so he sent me on a crusade to make those charts without ColdFusion until we have it... <img src=../images/dmxzone/forum/icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>
DUH, anyone know how to dynamically create Flash charts from a database using ASP/Jscript ? I think i'll take a look at Flashkit.com later, maybe they can help me with that...
With kind regards,
Dennis van Galen
Webmaster KPN Services
Financial and Information Services
Edited by - djvgalen on 11 Jun 2002 18:35:10
The new script thingies in the object panel help alot, for me atleast, the integrated snippets is usefull for re-using codes, the upgraded application window is also worth mentioning (database viewer and components/webservices tabs added), it saves alot of trips to MS-Access and SQL, i just use the database view in the application window. <img src=../images/dmxzone/forum/icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>
And now having ColdFusion to play with woke up my manager, today he sent someone my way to make some of those nice charts that I showed him (on my home test-server), so I rushed to his office and said, Look I told you that those charts are ColdFusion and we don't have the Server yet, so he sent me on a crusade to make those charts without ColdFusion until we have it... <img src=../images/dmxzone/forum/icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>
DUH, anyone know how to dynamically create Flash charts from a database using ASP/Jscript ? I think i'll take a look at Flashkit.com later, maybe they can help me with that...
With kind regards,
Dennis van Galen
Webmaster KPN Services
Financial and Information Services
Edited by - djvgalen on 11 Jun 2002 18:35:10
Replied 28 Jun 2002 19:30:59
28 Jun 2002 19:30:59 Patrick Moore replied:
Doesn't Web Assist have something that does just that? It's an extension that generates Flash charts in ASP.
www.webassist.com
www.webassist.com
Replied 29 Jun 2002 07:52:38
29 Jun 2002 07:52:38 carolus Holman replied:
DWMX is SLOW. I still think it's slower than UD 4.01 anyone know if there are any stats on this? Plus it's a resource hog, and crashes all the time.
Carolus Holman
Carolus Holman
Replied 29 Jul 2002 08:53:02
29 Jul 2002 08:53:02 V James replied:
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DWMX is SLOW. I still think it's slower than UD 4.01 anyone know if there are any stats on this? Plus it's a resource hog, and crashes all the time.
Carolus Holman
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don't know if this will help with your speed issue, but check my post on this at www.udzone.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19110&FORUM_ID=544&CAT_ID=2&Topic_Title=turn+off+realtime+virus+checking+to+speedup+MX&Forum_Title=%2A%2A%2A+Macromedia+MX+%2A%2A%2A
as far as the crashing goes, my experiences of DW collapsing in a heap are rare. =/
DWMX is SLOW. I still think it's slower than UD 4.01 anyone know if there are any stats on this? Plus it's a resource hog, and crashes all the time.
Carolus Holman
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don't know if this will help with your speed issue, but check my post on this at www.udzone.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19110&FORUM_ID=544&CAT_ID=2&Topic_Title=turn+off+realtime+virus+checking+to+speedup+MX&Forum_Title=%2A%2A%2A+Macromedia+MX+%2A%2A%2A
as far as the crashing goes, my experiences of DW collapsing in a heap are rare. =/